diff --git a/dtool/pptempl/Global.gmsvc.pp b/dtool/pptempl/Global.gmsvc.pp
index 33c4f463c4..29b3a06d88 100644
--- a/dtool/pptempl/Global.gmsvc.pp
+++ b/dtool/pptempl/Global.gmsvc.pp
@@ -72,11 +72,18 @@
 #defer CFLAGS_OPT3 $[CDEFINES_OPT3:%=/D%] /MD /Gi-
 #defer CFLAGS_OPT4 $[CDEFINES_OPT4:%=/D%] /MD /Gi-
 
+#if $[ENABLE_PROFILING]
+// note according to docs, this should force /PDB:none /DEBUGTYPE:cv, so no pdb file is generated for debug??  (doesnt seem to be true)
+#define PROFILE_FLAG /PROFILE
+#else
+#define PROFILE_FLAG 
+#endif
+
 // NODEFAULTLIB ensures static libs linked in will connect to the correct msvcrt, so no debug/release mixing occurs
-#defer LDFLAGS_OPT1 /debug /incremental:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRT.LIB /WARN:3
-#defer LDFLAGS_OPT2 /debug /incremental:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRT.LIB /WARN:3
-#defer LDFLAGS_OPT3 /fixed:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRTD.LIB /WARN:3
-#defer LDFLAGS_OPT4 /fixed:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRTD.LIB
+#defer LDFLAGS_OPT1 /debug /incremental:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRT.LIB /WARN:3 $[PROFILE_FLAG]
+#defer LDFLAGS_OPT2 /debug /incremental:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRT.LIB /WARN:3 $[PROFILE_FLAG]
+#defer LDFLAGS_OPT3 /fixed:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRTD.LIB /WARN:3 $[PROFILE_FLAG]
+#defer LDFLAGS_OPT4 /fixed:no /NODEFAULTLIB:MSVCRTD.LIB $[PROFILE_FLAG]
 
 // $[dllext] will be "_d" for debug builds, and empty for non-debug
 // builds.  This is the extra bit of stuff we tack on to the end of a
diff --git a/dtool/pptempl/Template.gmsvc.pp b/dtool/pptempl/Template.gmsvc.pp
index fe2685df8f..70328068fb 100644
--- a/dtool/pptempl/Template.gmsvc.pp
+++ b/dtool/pptempl/Template.gmsvc.pp
@@ -34,14 +34,11 @@
 #end decygwin
 
 // cant use DTOOL_INSTALL since may not be attached
-//#define dtool_ver_dir_cyg $[DTOOL_INSTALL]/src/dtoolbase
-//#define dtool_ver_dir $[decygwin %,%,$[dtool_ver_dir_cyg]]
-
-#define dtool_ver_dir_cyg ../../../dtool/src/dtoolbase
+#define dtool_ver_dir_cyg $[DTOOL_INSTALL]/src/dtoolbase
 #define dtool_ver_dir $[decygwin %,%,$[dtool_ver_dir_cyg]]
 
-
-
+//#define dtool_ver_dir_cyg ../../../dtool/src/dtoolbase
+//#define dtool_ver_dir $[decygwin %,%,$[dtool_ver_dir_cyg]]
 
 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 #if $[or $[eq $[DIR_TYPE], src],$[eq $[DIR_TYPE], metalib]]